When is charles manson up for parole

You also stated that you were not interested in paroling and that you would be lost in our society. His main concern at this time is to be released to a general population setting in order to program. I generally say to people what they want to hear. They come and go like - I can't keep track of those. I just want to get the statement out of the way. Is that your statement? I've got other legs. Cockroach got eight legs [inaudible] got six. It's got nothing to do with safety.

I'm not in that [inaudible]. The position that I should be holding is taken by someone else. Let me tell you what you've got here. You may have seen them yourself.

You had 45, what your counselor call, fearful letters. Fearful letters opposing your parole. That right? And it's all based on some rumor you let out of this joint that you were going to be paroled and that you would be accepting a hide out place and money in the bank and that's what you put out as a rumor. Did you do that? There's a lot of rumors that go in and out of different things I've been doing.

That's what hard about this whole thing. They put so much pressure on you that everything I say or do goes - gets twisted around to what people want it to be, want they wanted to have said. It hasn't really got anything to do with what it really is. It's what other people need it to be. Here it is. Charlie Manson should never return to society. Now the system may be putting fear into us.

That the witness protection program [inaudible] program to release Charlie Manson. You don't have nothing to do with the F. And that Mexican - New Mexico thing jumped off the - they asked for some help. I'm not really a - I'm not a - an informant type guy. Now, you're talking what's [inaudible] when you get home, mom and dad? You got a mom and dad? Each one of you is somebody. I ain't nobody. I'm nothing. I'm now [inaudible] now [inaudible].

My mother went to prison. She left me. And everybody's lied to me. A few old men in the Second World war were honest with me, you know. The older dudes were, you know - I was used to working the hospital [inaudible] you know.

I've always run with the - I've always run a main line with the guys that were truthful and honest. And like, the reason I haven't been - you haven't been able to kill me is you haven't been able to find me, because everytime you send somebody after me they can't find me because I'm not really there in your minds.

Just like you draw a line across the desert and I'm sitting there and you come and draw a line, you say, you can't get out of there. I say, I'm aware. You say, you're locked up. I say, locked up in what? He say, well, you're locked up and we're free. And I say, oh yeah? And then you walk back and forth and you play important with my life as if you've got something that I want, you know.

Like you got out and I'm supposed to be in, but yet I'm everywhere and I'm out and in and I'm all around, down to San Diego Zoo, and I'm riding a motorcycle and I'm your children and I'm the trees and I'm your -. Let me find it here. Support letters. Do you know a Cindy White? I didn't really need any supporters actually. I thought I was my supporter. George - St. Yes, he's a good man.

He's an orthodox religious kind of guy. He's got a very good - very good mind. Spiritually we're allies. I'm allied spiritually with a lot of things. He wrote a two page letter for you. Cindy White, again, she has -. I think the doctor sent you one of them, but he sent it to you and he didn't sign his name. He sent it from Sacramento. They hoodwink their own paperwork, and then when it comes back, then he can keep me here and then he can build a medical association with me. I had some pictures here.

No, no. These are just - I'm working on a zoo project for the ecology. I've got frogs and I've got hawks and turtles, lizards and I'm working on the backside of this game, trying to get C.

We was trying to start C. That's when Squeaky and Red and Blue and Gold was out. That's when we were running colors out. One last thing I have. You live in the over world. I do a lot of things under world that you guys don't see. I made about 75 albums in Vacaville and I bootlegged about three times more music than the Beatles put out.

I had the surfboard of the Beach Boys but I didn't sell it because everytime I would go to the music, they'd want to change the music. So rather than change the music, I went into the subculture with it. And it was like, I'm an awful big fellow.

I'm really big. I've got a great big body, because my body's underground. Is that what you're saying? And then the people never paid the piper so they always kept losing their children. Well, you've lost six generations of children to me, because you won't pay me what you owe me. Because I didn't break no law. I didn't kill nobody. I didn't tell nobody to get killed. And this is time for questions by any one of the panel members and the District Attorney.

I have a couple questions. Do you feel any responsibility for the murders? I didn't understand the fears of the people outside. I didn't understand the insecurities of people outside.

I didn't understand people outside. And a lot of things that I said and did effected a lot of people in a lot of different directions. It wasn't intentional and it definitely wasn't with malice or aforethought. You answered it. Do you have remorse, Mr. Do you feel any remorse for the victims whatsoever? We're in pawn four, bishop 4 and seven - let's see. How do I finesse that? You say in your minds that I'm guilty of everything that you've got on paper.

So therefore, it would run logic that I would need to have remorse for what you think is reality, and if that be true, then all the oceans' contents, if it were my tears, there would not be enough to express the remorse that I have for the sadness of that world that you people live in.

But I don't have - on the other side of that, I ask you back the same thing, you know. You've been using me ever since I was ten years old. You used to beat me with leather straps, you know. It's like, does anyone have any remorse that I've spent 23 years in a solitary cell and even on Devils Island, you didn't keep anyone over five years.

You broke every record that they've ever set in the planet Earth. You only kept Christ on the cross three days. Manson, I think you answered the question. Do you have a - still have a family, per se, that is, the type of family you had at the time of the crimes?

Do you still have a family? Hippie cult leader, is a word that they used, leader, family. You either have a family [inaudible] -. Kay, we're going to go to questions by the District Attorney on something that has not been covered, anything that has not been covered or something that he would like to emphasize. He will pose the questions to the panel and when you answer the panel - the questions, Mr. Manson, would you answer the panel, please. Now what do all you people think about that?

Yes, yes. We have fair play, huh? KAY: Thank you. I think the interesting thing for the Board to do here is to question Mr. Manson about the ninth murder he was convicted of. He doesn't mind talking about the Tate-LaBianca murders and Hinman murder because he's never accepted the law of conspiracy and aiding and abetting in California.

And he always thought that if he didn't physically do the murder himself, that he wouldn't be guilty. His followers would be guilty, but he didn't really care about that. But the one murder that he doesn't like to talk about because the evidence came out in court that he personally stabbed Shorty Shea to death.

He stabbed him, Bruce Davis stabbed him, Tex Watson stabbed him. KAY: Yes. That's the question I would like you to ask Mr. Manson, what he did to Shorty Shea and how Shorty Shea died.

You heard the question, Mr. Would you answer - face the panel and answer, please? He was a great big guy and he's very tough. He had everybody bullied, he had everybody buffaloed and there was a whole bunch of guys around.

And he was pushing on Steve and he was pushing on someone else and I moved in and I said, if you go into combat with someone you don't hesitate, and I'm going to show you kids how to do this one time and then don't invoke me to no violence any more.

And I moved on Shorty and I put him in a - in a situation where he couldn't move. And then I said, now can you understand what I'm saying to you? And he said, yeah. I stepped up on the highway and hitchhiked a ride. And about three or four minutes later, somebody stabbed him and he was stabbed to death and he was killed.

If you're on the line of life and death and you're gone and you're up on another line, that other reality's a completely different reality. It hasn't got anything do with the other side of that line. I was on that side of the line and it was a violent situation and I did deal with it and I put it into where it was - let me say this - there's only one way I can explain it. Duke in the joint is a guy that can fight with his fists.

The count is somebody who don't fight with his fists. He fights with his mind. He sits up on top of the count. When the count is clear, he runs the radio and the duke does all the physical things, like the first cop does his level, then the sergeant -. KAY: All right. The last question, because I don't want to take up a lot of the Board's time, but I'd like the Board to ask Mr. Manson whether on the night of the Tate murders at the Tate house, after the murders were committed, did he go to the residence to see what had been done?

And if so, what did he do when he was there? Let me - let me explain that to the Board. The reason they want to say that is because they should've let me out of here three years ago because if I'm not on any scene of the crime, he can only keep me 18 years.

You've already had me 23, so I can sue you for Hearst Castle, probably. First by the District Attorney and then you'll have the opportunity for the final closing statement before we recess. Okay, Mr. KAY: Thank you very much. Penal Code Section Charles Manson, through his actions and [inaudible] to the murders of nine innocent people, plus the attitudes and actions that he has shown while in person for those murders. By those actions and attitudes, he has demonstrated unquestionably that he is deserving of a unanimous finding of unsuitability by the Board and the maximum five year denial.

Charles Manson attained his status as America's most famous and feared criminal by his powerful ability to control his followers. And from July 25th, through and including August 28th, led them on a month long murderous rampage. That murderous rampage started at Gary Hinman's residence on July 25th. Hinman was not killed until the 27th, but he was tortured over a three day period, and then went to the Tate hour where Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Voytek Frykowski and Stephen Parent were killed on August 9th.

Manson did stab Mr. The first three murders involving eight victims were all tied into Mr. Manson's desire to ferment or take advantage of black-white race war. The murder of Shorty Shea was caused by Mr. Manson wanting to get revenge against him. The enormity and cruelty of these murders almost defies belief. Manson parole and Mr. Watson and the three girls parole forever.

Helter skelter, what was this and how did it start? Well it started by Manson, who was the guru on L. They would listen to the Beatles white album. And Mr. Manson and the others - and it wasn't just Mr. Manson alone, because they would kind of feed on each other - and they determined, listening to the White album, with songs like Helter Skelter, Revolution 9, Black Bird, Piggies, Sexy Sadie, Back in the U.

It talked about in Revelations 9 and 10 of the Bible - Mr. Manson I heard even is still quoting the Bible. He could quote the Bible very well, but twist it to mean what he wanted it to mean. KAY: Mr. Manson felt that there was going to be this black-white revolution and the family was going to be the beneficiaries because the blacks were going to kill all of the whites, except for Manson and the family.

And Manson and the family were going to escape to the bottomless pit talked about in Revelations 9 and 10 of the Bible. And they would live in this bottomless pit for 50 to years in miniaturized form and then they would've grown to the size of ,, the 12 tribes if Israel.

And at the end of this 50 to year period, Manson and the family would come out of the bottomless pit and there would only be blacks left - black president, black senators, black congressmen. But Manson, who is a real racist, thought that blacks were too stupid to maintain power. And as soon as he and the family came out of the bottomless pit, the blacks would rush up to him and turn over all power.

Now it was never clear whether he was going to rule the world, but at least he was going to rule the United States. Now I know this sounds bizarre, but the problem is that Manson and his followers believed in this motive enough to kill innocent people. At the trial we showed that Manson was so serious about this that he went to a sporting goods store in Santa Monica and bought expensive golden rope that he was going to lower himself into the bottomless pit.

He rented scuba equipment because he thought the entrance to the bottomless pit was under some underground river in Death Valley and he was looking for the entrance. He brought topographical maps because he felt that he and the family were going to have to fight their way out of L. He got an alliance with the Straight Satan's motorcycle gang in Venice that they were going to help protect him and lead him to the bottomless pit.

He had one of the Straight Satan's members, Danny OeCarlo, who ran a gun room out in Spahn Ranch where he had machine guns and other armaments and DeCarlo would pack bullets. Now there are four separate occasions of murder here.

The first occasion of murder, the Hinman murder, was tied into Manson preparing for war. He needed money because he was buying armaments. He was buying dune buggies. He had his own dune buggy. He had a machine gun mounted on the dune buggy and he had a sheath for his sword that he kept on the side.

Well, he met Gary Hinman, who was a rock musician. He met him at Dennis Wilson's house, the same place he met Tex Watson. Dennis Wilson was the drummer for the Beach Boys.

Manson thought that Hinman had come into an inheritance and he wanted his money and his property and he wanted Hinman to join the family. So he sent Beausoleil, Atkins and Brunner to Hinman ' s house to get the property. Hinman was not interested in doing this. He hadn't come into an inheritance and he didn't want to join the family.

When he wasn't cooperating, Beausoleil called first Bruce Davis - and I know there's been some misconception here about who was Manson's chief lieutenant. Make no mistake about it. Bruce Davis was Manson's chief lieutenant, not Tex Watson. Tex Watson was certainly the major killer here, but when Manson was not at the family -at the ranch in charge, Bruce Davis was the one in charge.

When Manson wanted somebody to study scientology more - because that's how he used that a lot to control people to get into their minds - he sent Bruce Davis to London to the scientology headquarters to study scientology. Anyway, Manson and Davis then went the second day to Hinman's house and tried to force him to turn over his property and when he wouldn't cooperate, Manson sliced his ear off with Davis holding a gun on him. And then they left and let Beausoleil know, get the property or else, and of course it turned into, or else, with Beausoleil killing him on the third day and Atkins holding a pillow over his nose so he - and his mouth - so he couldn't breathe while he was dying from the stab wounds.

Now Manson always felt that the blacks were going to start the revolution. And when they didn't, he was very impatient. And finally on the evening of August 8th, he told his family members, the only thing blackie knows what to do is what whitey shows him and I'm - that's a quote - and so we're going to have to show blackie how to do it.

Now is the time for helter skelter. And so he told Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel and Kasablan to go to the residence. Now the motive for the murders, make no doubt about it, was helter skelter, but Manson had an ulterior motive. He was very mad at the prior residents of the Tate house.

He had been there before. He knew the layout. He and Watson had both been to a party there. But he was very mad at Terry Melcher who - Doris Day's son and his girlfriend Candice Bergen, because Manson wanted a recording contract from Melcher and Melcher auditioned him and wouldn't give him the contact.

So the reason that this particular residence was picked out was because Manson wanted to send a message to Melcher and Bergen that there but for the grace of God go you. And he knew that they moved out. He knew that somebody else lived there at the time. He didn't know who they were. He didn't know any of these people at the residence. He knew that somebody famous lived there. And he told his followers that he wanted some gruesome murders.

He even talked at one point about gouging eyeballs out and smashing them against the wall. And when they left the ranch, he told the girls - he said, do what Watson tells you to do because he knows the layout of the place and leave a sign, something witchy.

Well, they followed his instructions because the victims at the Tate house suffered stab wounds. Sharon Tate, who was eight and a half months pregnant was hung while she was still alive. And I should tell you that Watson took a long rope in there because Watson and Manson both knew the living room had high beam ceilings that you could throw a rope over and hang somebody.

So that was planned from the very beginning. Now this wasn't good enough for Mr. We should be talking about suitability on parole. So I would like you to speak to suitability, if you would, please. KAY: I will. I'm just about finished with this area, but this goes to suitability, what he did in the life crimes. That's a part of it, that's a part of your hearing, and I just don't want people to forget what he did, what he's responsible for.

I'm not going blow-by-blow like I would in the Watson hearing and in Van Houten. I mean, I would do that, blow-by-blow there. The previous recommendations were rejected by former Gov. Jerry Brown and current Gov. Gavin Newsom. She was sentenced to death in , but the conviction and punishment were reversed on appeal and she was subsequently sentenced to life. Van Houten has said she was traveling the California coast when she linked up with Manson's crowd and ended up squatting at an abandoned movie ranch on the outskirts of Los Angeles.

The Tuesday recommendation will likely be sent to Newsom for approval in a day review process, per NBC. Van Houten's lawyer, Rich Pfeiffer, told The Associated Press that, while he believes the concerns that came up in Van Houten's previous parole rejections have been addressed, he thinks Newsom will reverse this recommendation as well. Manson died in while serving out a life sentence for his role in assembling a "family" of followers in an effort to survive a race war and in carrying out multiple murders across Los Angeles.

View the discussion thread. Skip to main content. Notorious killer Charles Manson, 77, was denied parole Wednesday after a California parole panel "could find nothing good as far as suitability" for his being paroled, a commissioner said. Manson didn't show up for his parole hearing, which was held at a state prison in Corcoran, California, where he is serving a life sentence. Manson's next parole hearing was scheduled for 15 years from now, meaning he could die in prison.

California Board of Parole Hearings Commissioner John Peck said that Manson has accumulated serious disciplinary violations in prison since and that he has shown no indication of remorse for his nine murder convictions. Manson hasn't participated in any self-help programs or vocational training, Peck said.

Manson also hasn't shown any parole plans, he said. Peck also cited Manson's statement to a psychologist in a prison interview on November 2, , in which Manson stated:. I am not like the average inmate. I have put five people in the grave. I've been in prison most of my life. I'm a very dangerous man," Manson told the psychologist, according to a report read aloud by Peck during the hearing.